so, in an effort to spread his secrets, here is a list of the Space Wolf list that scares the bejesus out of my Grey Knights.
Rune Priest, Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane, Chooser of the Slain (Not Hawk Thingy as I first called it!)
Wolf Guard Pack x 3, Power Fist x 3, Landraider Redeemer w/Multi-Melta Transport
Grey Hunters x 10, Power Fist, Mark of the Wulfen, 2 x Meltaguns
Grey Hunters x 9, Mark of the Wulfen, Meltagu, Rhino
Grey Hunters x 9, Mark of the Wulfen, Meltagun, Rhino
Long Fang Pack, 4 Rockets, Lascannon, Razorback w/Twin Linked Lascannon
Long Fang Pack, 3 Rockets, 2 Lascannons, Razorback w/Twin Linked Lascannon
Long Fang Pack, 3 Rockets, 2 Lascannons, Razorback w/ Twin Linked Heavy Bolter
This list actually makes my head hurt. So much of it needs dealing with and ignoring any component can be fatal.
The Long Fangs give a good range of fire to start popping AV12 and below, along with the Lascannons to deal with the Landraiders of the World.The Razorbacks further increase their effectiveness given the extra shots they are getting.
The Wolf Gaurd split off, one for each Grey Hunter Pack, and then the Rune Priest joins the 10 man unit and they all travel around in the Redeemer. Note they do not start the game in the Redeemer, as its the Wolfguard Transport not the Grey Hunters Transport. This is useful if you can steal first turn from them, but most of the time they are able to get in the Landraider if they so choose.
The Grey Hunters are there to run forward and jump on small units of the enemy, or to chew them up with Bolter fire on the way into them.
All in all I feel this list is very well Balance and should give anyone a headache when dealing with it.
The only effective strategy I have come up with is to rush them, and provide such a high leve of Target staturation that you men get through and into combat. Trying to duke it out with this list at range is a suicidal idea.
Even the so 'dreaded Draiogwing' will struggle because of the amount of AP2 or Str 8 shots. FNP doesnt help them, and while it only takes one or two Paladins to get into the Long Fangs to kill them all the Grey Hunter packs with their Power Fist attacks (and rending) can again cause them serious issues.
It has numbers and good firepower... overall I have to say I hate fighting this list as I feel that half the battle has been won for the Space Wolf player in building such a well rounded list.
Rune Priest, Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane, Chooser of the Slain (Not Hawk Thingy as I first called it!)
Wolf Guard Pack x 3, Power Fist x 3, Landraider Redeemer w/Multi-Melta Transport
Grey Hunters x 10, Power Fist, Mark of the Wulfen, 2 x Meltaguns
Grey Hunters x 9, Mark of the Wulfen, Meltagu, Rhino
Grey Hunters x 9, Mark of the Wulfen, Meltagun, Rhino
Long Fang Pack, 4 Rockets, Lascannon, Razorback w/Twin Linked Lascannon
Long Fang Pack, 3 Rockets, 2 Lascannons, Razorback w/Twin Linked Lascannon
Long Fang Pack, 3 Rockets, 2 Lascannons, Razorback w/ Twin Linked Heavy Bolter
This list actually makes my head hurt. So much of it needs dealing with and ignoring any component can be fatal.
The Long Fangs give a good range of fire to start popping AV12 and below, along with the Lascannons to deal with the Landraiders of the World.The Razorbacks further increase their effectiveness given the extra shots they are getting.
The Wolf Gaurd split off, one for each Grey Hunter Pack, and then the Rune Priest joins the 10 man unit and they all travel around in the Redeemer. Note they do not start the game in the Redeemer, as its the Wolfguard Transport not the Grey Hunters Transport. This is useful if you can steal first turn from them, but most of the time they are able to get in the Landraider if they so choose.
The Grey Hunters are there to run forward and jump on small units of the enemy, or to chew them up with Bolter fire on the way into them.
All in all I feel this list is very well Balance and should give anyone a headache when dealing with it.
The only effective strategy I have come up with is to rush them, and provide such a high leve of Target staturation that you men get through and into combat. Trying to duke it out with this list at range is a suicidal idea.
Even the so 'dreaded Draiogwing' will struggle because of the amount of AP2 or Str 8 shots. FNP doesnt help them, and while it only takes one or two Paladins to get into the Long Fangs to kill them all the Grey Hunter packs with their Power Fist attacks (and rending) can again cause them serious issues.
It has numbers and good firepower... overall I have to say I hate fighting this list as I feel that half the battle has been won for the Space Wolf player in building such a well rounded list.
Comments
Oh and the list has changed ever so slightly now that I have started modelling the Combi Melta's - should help me deal with Mech and Terminators even better now!
I still think a well played Horde list will give me problems though, but we just don't seem to see much of them around here.
Tom
Well, if you want to fight against Orks with Grey Knights, you could always go to Kirkcaldy Gaming Club and ask to go up against Kenny (kennyw on the KGC forum).
If you want to fight against Tyranids, the two main KGC Nid players are Chaos Dave and myself. My Nids can chomp, especially at 3k.
Finally, are you sure that Jordan still has his 40k Orks? I've never seen him play 40k for months or at least a year, as I thought he jacked in 40k for Warmachine/ Hordes.
So says the dreaded Doktor Porkov.
Although I do hope to get over once a month or so...